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<pre>Isin,

I don't know if it's legally permitted or not but in Southwestern Turkey, they
graze cows in olive orchards. But taking a prevention, they tie the neck of the
cow to one of its forelegs so that the cow only eat the grass not olive leaves.
(Maybe this is also contrary to Animal Rights.)

Regards.

Ozgen Gulmen
Bafa Tarim Ltd.
Turkey

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isin ozgen
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Subject: RE: [OliveOil] Pre-emergent herbicides


Hello,

In Turkey, sheep grazing in olive orchards is prevented by law, due to the
damage to the trees by the sheep--they prefer the olive leaves to the grass....

Regards,

Isin Ozgen
Erdek, Turkey

AgriSolutions <seagrow@...> wrote:
Hello,

I fail to understand why it is that the 'weeds' have to be poisoned in the
first place. They are only there to help cover and hold the soil in place.

To control and manage the under-story vegetation on established trees,
consider grazing with sheep or geese or if you must burn fossil fuels, slash
the inter-row and use this material as a mulch around the trees to suppress
the weeds. It is much healthier for the soil, the trees and you (and your
bank balance!)

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-----Original Message-----
From: OliveOil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OliveOil@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, 9 August 2005 9:25 AM
To: Olives Groups
Subject: [OliveOil] Pre-emergent herbicides

Dear all,

Does anybody have any experience - good or bad - in using pre-emergent
herbicides with olive trees? I am interested in being able to inhibit the
growth of weeds rather than having to keep knocking them down with
herbicides, but I understand that pre-emergents work on the soil and with
the surface rooted olives I am wary of damaging the trees.

Regards,

Mike Wilson
Hunter Valley.







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