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Old September 17th, 1999, 03:27 AM
Phyl & Bill
 
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Any Advice?

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<pre>Dear Collegues,
Last Spring my partners and I planted about 8000 trees in Mudgee, New South
Wales, Australia. The trees were developing quite well until, in Winter, we had
about ten days in a row of heavy frost, with temperatures at the base of the
trees dropping to about minus 10 degrees celsius overnight. Following these
frosts about half of our trees have died.
We think that part of the reason that the damage was so severe was that the
trees were not getting enough water - that, if we had given them more water,
their resistance to the frost would have been improved. However, we would like
to take action to ensure that all our trees survive next Winter.
Can anyone provide advice as to what we can do to protect our young trees from
the frost? Of course, the less expensive the solution the better!
Thanks and regards,
Bill Monks.
Sydney, Australia.
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Old September 17th, 1999, 03:59 AM
P Caird
 
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Re: Any Advice?

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<pre>What type of olives were planted? How old were they when they were planted?
Had they been acclimatised or hardened off before planting (assuming they
came from more temperate zones)? I would have thought Mudgee was wet enough
during Winter in any event.

Perhaps take a leaf from the broad acre grape growers who light fires/smoke
systems when frost danger imminent. Has worked well for one person down our
way (in Bendigo, Victoria, Australia)

Good luck!
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Old September 17th, 1999, 01:47 PM
Antonio Giannò
 
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<pre>It happened to me too in 1996. We had minus 19 degrees centigrades.
But many roots didn't die and they throw new good suckers. Someone explained
to me that I could defend better the trees putting a little heap of earth
(10/15 cms high) just around the base. In default of it, when it's raining
or it's snowing the water freezes and holds trunks as if with a vice. The
contact with ice is generally lethal. I will send you a particular photo to
better show it to you.
This is the less expensive solution I Know.
It's also very important to select types of olives with high cold-tolerance
character.
Regards
Antonio

----- Original Message -----
From: Phyl & Bill <phylnbill@one.net.au>
To: <oliveoil@onelist.com>
Sent: venerdì 17 settembre 1999 8.27
Subject: [OliveOil] Any Advice?


> From: "Phyl & Bill" <phylnbill@one.net.au>
>
> Dear Collegues,
> Last Spring my partners and I planted about 8000 trees in Mudgee, New
South Wales, Australia. The trees were developing quite well until, in
Winter, we had about ten days in a row of heavy frost, with temperatures at
the base of the trees dropping to about minus 10 degrees celsius overnight.
Following these frosts about half of our trees have died.
> We think that part of the reason that the damage was so severe was that
the trees were not getting enough water - that, if we had given them more
water, their resistance to the frost would have been improved. However, we
would like to take action to ensure that all our trees survive next Winter.
> Can anyone provide advice as to what we can do to protect our young trees
from the frost? Of course, the less expensive the solution the better!
> Thanks and regards,
> Bill Monks.
> Sydney, Australia.
>
> [Attachments have been removed from this message]
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Old September 17th, 1999, 09:17 PM
Phil Bramley
 
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RE: Any Advice?

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<pre>Does anyone know the percentage of oil (roughly) contained in the olive
kernel compared to the flesh.


Regards,

Phil
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Old September 18th, 1999, 02:17 AM
Phyl & Bill
 
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<pre>Thanks for the tip. We'll definately keep this in mind for next winter.
Cheers,
Bill Monks.
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From: P Caird <caird@netcon.net.au>
To: OliveOil@onelist.com <OliveOil@onelist.com>
Date: Friday, 17 September 1999 4:49
Subject: Re: [OliveOil] Any Advice?


>From: "P Caird" <caird@netcon.net.au>
>
>What type of olives were planted? How old were they when they were
planted?
>Had they been acclimatised or hardened off before planting (assuming they
>came from more temperate zones)? I would have thought Mudgee was wet
enough
>during Winter in any event.
>
>Perhaps take a leaf from the broad acre grape growers who light fires/smoke
>systems when frost danger imminent. Has worked well for one person down
our
>way (in Bendigo, Victoria, Australia)
>
>Good luck!
>
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Old September 18th, 1999, 02:19 AM
Phyl & Bill
 
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<pre>Dear Antonio,
Thanks for the advice and the photos. We'll definately try this next
winter.
Ciao,
Bill Monks.
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From: Antonio Giannò <janoant@tin.it>
To: OliveOil@onelist.com <OliveOil@onelist.com>
Date: Saturday, 18 September 1999 3:30
Subject: Re: [OliveOil] Any Advice?


>From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Antonio_Giann=F2?= <janoant@tin.it>
>
>It happened to me too in 1996. We had minus 19 degrees centigrades.
>But many roots didn't die and they throw new good suckers. Someone
explained
>to me that I could defend better the trees putting a little heap of earth
>(10/15 cms high) just around the base. In default of it, when it's raining
>or it's snowing the water freezes and holds trunks as if with a vice. The
>contact with ice is generally lethal. I will send you a particular photo to
>better show it to you.
>This is the less expensive solution I Know.
>It's also very important to select types of olives with high
cold-tolerance
>character.
>Regards
>Antonio
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Phyl & Bill <phylnbill@one.net.au>
>To: <oliveoil@onelist.com>
>Sent: venerdì 17 settembre 1999 8.27
>Subject: [OliveOil] Any Advice?
>
>
>> From: "Phyl & Bill" <phylnbill@one.net.au>
>>
>> Dear Collegues,
>> Last Spring my partners and I planted about 8000 trees in Mudgee, New
>South Wales, Australia. The trees were developing quite well until, in
>Winter, we had about ten days in a row of heavy frost, with temperatures at
>the base of the trees dropping to about minus 10 degrees celsius overnight.
>Following these frosts about half of our trees have died.
>> We think that part of the reason that the damage was so severe was that
>the trees were not getting enough water - that, if we had given them more
>water, their resistance to the frost would have been improved. However, we
>would like to take action to ensure that all our trees survive next Winter.
>> Can anyone provide advice as to what we can do to protect our young trees
>from the frost? Of course, the less expensive the solution the better!
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Bill Monks.
>> Sydney, Australia.
>>
>> [Attachments have been removed from this message]
>
>
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