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Old September 4th, 2000, 12:24 PM
Sadoun
 
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<pre>For the benefit of the group, would someone give an accurate
definition/explanation of what all these terms mean or indicate. What are
the desired/acceptable levels or measures for each term and how is it
measured:

For example, the Chemlali Tunisian Olive Oil as mentioned in Guido's
message:

Acidity 0,4%
Peroxide Index 11,5meqO2/Kg
K270: 0,14
K232: 2,46
Palmitic 17,28%
Palmitoleic 2,11%
Heptadecanoic 0,04%
Heptadecenoic 0,06%
Stearic 2,26%
Oleic 60,16%
Linoleic 16,96%
Linolenic 0,59%
Arachidic 0,36%
Gadoleic 0,18%

Regards
Sadoun
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Old September 4th, 2000, 02:24 PM
Sadoun
 
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<pre>For the benefit of the group, would someone give an accurate
definition/explanation of what all these terms mean or indicate. What are
the desired/acceptable levels or measures for each term and how is it
measured:

For example, the Chemlali Tunisian Olive Oil as mentioned in Guido's
message:

Acidity 0,4%
Peroxide Index 11,5meqO2/Kg
K270: 0,14
K232: 2,46
Palmitic 17,28%
Palmitoleic 2,11%
Heptadecanoic 0,04%
Heptadecenoic 0,06%
Stearic 2,26%
Oleic 60,16%
Linoleic 16,96%
Linolenic 0,59%
Arachidic 0,36%
Gadoleic 0,18%

Regards
Sadoun
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Old September 4th, 2000, 06:35 PM
Phil Bramley
 
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<pre>Thanks Sadoun, I was thinking perhaps that our experts on the list might
like to start a new thread and explain, in layman's terms, a little about
the various chemical components of the olive.

Could we kick it off by starting with acidity? What is it and why is it
important?

Regards,

Phil Bramley


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From: Sadoun [mailto:JamalSadoun@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 5 September 2000 4:25 AM
To: OliveOil@egroups.com
Subject: [OliveOil] Definitions



For the benefit of the group, would someone give an accurate
definition/explanation of what all these terms mean or indicate. What are
the desired/acceptable levels or measures for each term and how is it
measured:

For example, the Chemlali Tunisian Olive Oil as mentioned in Guido's
message:

Acidity 0,4%
Peroxide Index 11,5meqO2/Kg
K270: 0,14
K232: 2,46
Palmitic 17,28%
Palmitoleic 2,11%
Heptadecanoic 0,04%
Heptadecenoic 0,06%
Stearic 2,26%
Oleic 60,16%
Linoleic 16,96%
Linolenic 0,59%
Arachidic 0,36%
Gadoleic 0,18%

Regards
Sadoun


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Old September 5th, 2000, 07:56 AM
Hanna Meier
 
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<pre>Dear group members

We appreciate the idea of Sadoun and Phil to get chemical informations
about the olive oil parameters in a laymen's language.

Looking forward to these informations
we send you our best regards
Hanna and Daniela
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Old September 7th, 2000, 10:01 AM
Antonio Gianno''
 
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<pre>On Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:24:05 -0400, Sadoun wrote:

>For the benefit of the group, would someone give an accurate
>definition/explanation of what all these terms mean or indicate.....

Further to Phil, Sadoun and Gareth's recent postings:
I'll try to give more explanations of some parameters in a laymen language. I'm
sorry I cannot
give you further scientific informations as I am not a chemist.
Linolenic acid test : it is useful to distinguish refined oil from vergin oil;
"refined" oil may be
de-acidified by soda. But the structure of acido linolenico is different,
therefore easily
recognizable ; moreover refined oil absorbs ultraviolet rays while vergin oil is
transparent to
UV;
Wax test : wax covers olive peel and it is not soluble when olives are cold
pressed; but it's
present in olive husks oil. Wax tests are useful to distinguish vergin oils from
husks oils. You
can follow by yourself another practical method too: at 40ø C temperature, if
oil is clear, it
means that no wax is in it; oil opacity is due to the presence of dissolved wax;
Peroxides test: show the presence of some products due to oxidation process;
Panel test : a tasters panel classifies oil in a sort of numerical range
according to its flavour ;
this organoleptic test is rather subjective.

If somebody else can indicate the utility and the meaning of some other test
referring to:
K232, 270,Colesterolo,Brassicasterolo, Campesterolo, Stigmasterolo,
á-sitosterolo , Delta7
- stigmatenolo,Steroli totali.,Stigmastadieni, Adomiristico, Acido arachico,
Acido eicosenoico
and so on
HE IS REALLY WELCOME
Antonio



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Old September 7th, 2000, 04:55 PM
Guido Costa
 
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<pre>This may be very boring! You've been warned.


Responding to Sadoun's request, supported by Phil, Hanna, Daniela...(and
following on Gareth and Antonio's response), I'll try to throw a little
light on some of the terms used in the chemical specification of vegetable
oils. Stan's no doubt the resident edible oil specialist on this group, and
hopefully he'll assist.

Herewith my contribution on FATTY ACIDS AND ACIDITY:

Olive oil is composed mainly of triacylglycerols (triglycerides). Chemically
speaking, these are molecules derived from the natural esterification of
three fatty acid molecules with a glycerol molecule. The glycerol molecule
can simplistically be seen as an "E-shaped" molecule, with the fatty acids
in turn resembling longish hydrocarbon chains, varying (in the case of olive
oil) from about 14 to 24 carbons atoms in length. Thus the triacylglycerols
can, for our purpose, be visualised as elongated E-shaped molecules, each
with three long extensions, being the three fatty acid chains "attached to
each horizontal bar of the E".

Please note that we are dealing here with fatty acids forming part of the
triacylglycerol molecule. They are distinct from FREE FATTY ACIDS, which
we'll talk about later!

Various fatty acids are found in nature. They differ in length (number of
carbon atoms in the chain) as well as in the type of chemical bonds found
within the chain. Mostly these carbon-carbon bonds in the chain are "single"
bonds, comprising 2 electrons shared between adjacent carbon atoms. However,
in certain of the fatty acids, some of the bonds are "double bonds", where 4
electrons are shared between adjacent carbon atoms. The fatty acids that
have no double bonds in their chains are called "saturated" fatty acids (all
the carbons in their carbon chain are "saturated" by hydrogen atoms).
Examples of saturated fatty acids are Palmitic Acid (16 carbons long),
Stearic Acid (18 carbons long) and Arachidic Acid (20 carbons long). The
fatty acids that have one carbon-carbon double bond somewhere along their
length are called monounsaturated fatty acids (one carbon-carbon bond which
is not fully saturated with hydrogens), i.e. one of the bonds available at
each of 2 adjacent carbons is now used to form a double bond between
themselves instead of being used to bond externally to hydrogen atoms.
Examples of monounsaturated fatty acids are Palmitoleic Acid (16 carbons
long) and our famous Oleic Acid (18 carbons long). Oleic acid is the most
abundant fatty acid found in nature. The double bond in Oleic acid occurs in
the mid position of the molecule, between carbon 9 and carbon 10.

I don't want to make this sound too complicated, but as soon as one brings a
double bond into the picture, one must bear in mind that, unlike the single
bonds (wherein the molecular chain has complete rotational freedom of
movement in the bond axis), the double bond is a rigid bond insofar as it
does not allow rotation around its longitudinal axis. Thus, with each double
bond, one introduces what are called isomers. These have the same chemical
structure, but different stereochemistry. In other words, the shape of the
molecule differs, and so does its chemical reactivity (and effect on
health). This leads to things like "trans" fatty acids (TFA's) and "cis"
fatty acids (CFA's). Trans fatty acids are normally produced when oils are
artificially and chemically converted into margarines. They are said to
raise LDL's (the "bad" cholesterol) and lower HDL's (the "good"
cholesterol), and are thus to be avoided. Oleic acid is a cis fatty acid,
and more specifically a cis monounsaturated C18 acid. Cis means the rest of
the chain is "on the same side" of the bond axis as the carbon chain prior
to the double bond, and trans means "on opposite sides" of the bond axis.
Wow, is there anyone still reading this!?

Well, we're not yet finished. Now for polyunsaturated fatty acids. If you've
understood the above, they're a simple extension - just more than one double
(unsaturated) bond along the length of the fatty acid carbon chain. In olive
oils the maximum number of double bonds per fatty acid is three, wheras one
can get up to six unsaturated double bonds in certain fatty acids derived
from
fish. Generally, however, the greater the number of double bonds in the
fatty acid, the more unstable, and more easily broken down by heat, light,
etc. That's why olive oil, made up predominantly of monounsaturated oleic
acid, is so much more heat-stable than the highly polyunsaturated seed oils.
Olive oil can, for example, be re-used substantially more often in frying
than other seed oils (including canola, which has about three times the
amount of polyunsaturation than olive oil). An example of a polyunsaturated
fatty acid with two unsaturated double bonds along its carbon chain is
Linoleic Acid (18 carbons long). Linolenic Acid has three double bonds in
its carbon chain, and is also 18 carbons long.

Triacylglycerols are normally composed of a mixture of three of the some of
the above-mentioned fatty acids. Most prevalent in olive oil is the
oleic-oleic-oleic (OOO) triacylglycerol, followed, in order of incidence, by
palmitic-oleic-oleic (POO), then oleic-oleic-linoleic (OOL), then
palmitic-oleic-linoleic (POL), then stearic-oleic-oleic (SOO), etc.

Now lets look ACIDITY, which is probably the most fundamental quality
measurement of an edible oil.

As we know, freshly pressed oil, made from sound, healthy, freshly picked
olives, normally has a pretty low "acidity", in the order of well under
0,5%. This "acidity" is the result of a degree of breakdown of the
triacylglycerols due to a chemical reaction called hydrolysis, in which
free fatty acids are formed. (In exceptional circumstances, even oils made
from fresh, healthy olives can have significant amount of acidity, caused by
anomalies during the actual biosynthesis of the oil in the olive fruit).
Once the oil has been extracted, however, carelessness can lead to a very
significant further breakdown of the triacylglycerides into fatty acids -
these "broken off" fatty acids being called FREE FATTY ACIDS. Sometimes just
one of the three fatty acids breaks off, leaving a diacylglycerol. If two
fatty acids break off a certain triacylglycerol, we're left with a
monoacylglycerol. If all three break off, we're left with glycerol.

Factors which lead to a high free fatty acidity in an oil are: fruit fly
infestation of fruit, delays between harvesting and extraction, especially
if the fruit has been bruised or damaged during harvesting, fungal diseases
in the fruit (gloesporium, macrophoma, etc.), prolonged contact between oil
and vegetation water (after extraction), etc. Thus we see that the
traditional
way in which olives are/were stored in heaps/silos to encourage enzymatic
breakdown of cell structure so as to facilitate oil release (as practiced in
Portugal, etc.) is certainly not conduucive to producing a high quality, low
acid oil.

The free fatty acidity is thus a direct measure of the quality of the oil,
and reflects the care taken right from blossoming and fruit set to the
eventual sale and consumption of the oil.

Measurement of FFA (free fatty acidity) is a very simple procedure. The
principle is based on dissolving the free fatty acids present in a carefully
weighed sample of oil into a mixture of solvents (usually
alcohol/peroxide-free ether), and then titrating, with constant stirring,
against a standard alkali solution (usually standardised Potassium
Hydroxide) in the presence of an acid/base indicator (usually
phenolpthalein). The results are presented as grams oleic acid per 100 grams
oil, commonly known as the free fatty acidity (ffa or acidity) of the oil
(in %).

Have I left anything out?!!

Cheers

Guido
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Old September 8th, 2000, 04:44 AM
P Caird
 
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<pre>Thanks for that valuable contribution.

Can you advise how the evoo is affected by lesser/greater quantities of the
various FFA's whilst still remaining in the parameters set by the IOOC.

For example the Tunisian analysis that you posted showed high Palmetic
readings (17.28) compared to mine (10.06). Permissible range for evoo
between 7.5 and 20. And the Linoleic was 16.96 compared to 7.56. Range
allowed 3.5 to 21.

Michael Burr has pointed out elsewhere that Australian oils seem to have a
higher reading of Linolenic acid (Tunisian 0.59, mine 0.73; permissible
level <0.9). What does this mean qualitatively?

Is the flavour affected? Viscosity? Nose?

Similarly with the famous Oleic acid. Is it better to have a higher rather
than lower reading? The Tunisian one was 60.16, mine 77.09 and the range
allowed 55 to 83.

And the peroxide levels. Is it better that they are higher rather than
lower. Why?

What is altered in the scheme of things if all readings were at the low end,
or the high? I think these areas need some discussion.

Finally, is it possible to hypothetically create the "ideal" evoo chemically
and if so, would it pass muster with the subjective sensory testing.

Regards
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Old September 9th, 2000, 07:36 PM
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<pre>You did a good job Guido on the chemistry.

All I can add is that often olive oil is marketed as having no
cholesterol. I recently read a paper where cholesterol was identified
and estimated in olive oil. What was the most likely explanation? No not
someones ham sandwich fell into the hammer Mill! But due to olive fly
infestation. Without the infestation no cholesterol is present.

My question is how About Mediterranean fruit fly?

Stan Kailis
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Old October 25th, 2000, 07:13 AM
P Caird
 
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<pre>This is a re-posting with some additional questions. I would be grateful
for any input from processors, chemical analysts, organoleptic masters or
interested people.

Can anyone advise how evoo is affected by lesser/greater quantities of the
various FFA's whilst still remaining in the parameters set by the IOOC.

FFA's in general must be <1%. The Tunisian oil (previous posting) was 0.4%,
mine 0.18% (see http://www.egroups.com/files/OliveOil/breakdown.htm for
further detailed info). I think Stan K has recently posted the note that
"good oils" are usually between 0.1% and 0.5%. In any event I am more
interested the other constituents.

For example the Tunisian analysis recently posted showed high Palmetic
readings (17.28) compared to mine (10.77). Permissible range for evoo
between 7.5 and 20. And the Linoleic was 16.96 compared to 6.92. Range
allowed 3.5 to 21.

Michael Burr has pointed out elsewhere that Australian oils seem to have a
higher reading of Linolenic acid (Tunisian 0.59, mine 0.69; permissible
level <0.9). What does this mean qualitatively?

Is the flavour affected? Viscosity? Nose?

Similarly with the famous Oleic acid. Is it better to have a higher rather
than lower reading? The Tunisian one was 60.16, mine 77.64 and the range
allowed 55 to 83.

And the peroxide levels. Is it better that they are higher rather than
lower. Why?

My Rancimat reading for this year's oil was 6hours 48 minutes. I have been
unable to find any reference to desirable levels nor have there been any
IOOC standards set as far as I can ascertain. Burr says the longer the
better but how long is long?

What is altered in the scheme of things if all readings were at the low
end,
or the high? I think these areas need some discussion.

Finally, is it possible to hypothetically create the "ideal" evoo
chemically
and if so, would it pass muster with the subjective sensory testing?

Regards
Peter Caird
www.victorianolivegroves.com
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Old October 26th, 2000, 03:22 AM
Hanna Meier
 
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<pre>Hello Peter Caird

What means "Rancimat reading"? I have never heard of this process. Can you
do it by yourself or is it done by a chemist?

Regards,
Hanna

PS: What ist FFA, does it mean acidity?
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