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<pre>Peter

> I've got a lot of information on the use of olive pressing waste products
> (a whole dissertations worth in fact).

Would you post this information to the group.

Thanks
Jamal
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<pre>On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Sadoun wrote:

> Peter
>
> > I've got a lot of information on the use of olive pressing waste products
> > (a whole dissertations worth in fact).
>
> Would you post this information to the group.
>
I have about 72 pages of information on traditional olive oil processing
and the uses of pressing wastes (as an archaeologist, I'm interested in
how olive remains get incorporated into the archaeological record). This
makes up a major chapter of my dissertation (I hope to finish this
semester). Since I hope to publish this information as part of my Ph.D.
dissertation, I'd rather not post it to the group at the moment. However,
I would gladly answer or respond to any specific comments or questions on
the subject.

Peter Warnock


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<pre>Kiritsakis [1] has a 5 page chapter on this subject.

To summarise:
Exhausted Olive Pomace (Kernel Wood)
- lots of fibre, cellulose and some proteins. Used mainly for heating water
in the olive mills in a special burner. Certain parts useful for making
plastics and other materials. Ash makes good fertilizer due to high P, K and
Ca content.

Waste Water:
>50% of fruit. Rich in sugars, also contains organic acids, emulsified oil,
minerals and other things. pH ~5.5. Used for growth of some yeast esp. in
Spain for stock feed with ammonium phosphate addition.

Kiritsakis gives a breakdown of the constituents of these two products.
For waste water, see also [2], which suggests we should be making use of
waste waters as a cheap source of natural antioxidants (very healthy things,
these!)

Adrian

[1] Kiritsakis, A.K. (Ed) (1991) Olive Oil, American Oil Chemists' Society,
Champaign, Illinois.

[2] Visioli, F., Vinceri, F.F. & Galli, C. (1995) Waste-Waters from Olive Oil
Production are Rich in Natural Antioxidants. Experientia 51:1, 32-34.

Peter Warnock wrote:
> I have about 72 pages of information on traditional olive oil processing
> and the uses of pressing wastes (as an archaeologist, I'm interested in
> how olive remains get incorporated into the archaeological record). This
> makes up a major chapter of my dissertation (I hope to finish this
> semester). Since I hope to publish this information as part of my Ph.D.
> dissertation, I'd rather not post it to the group at the moment. However,
> I would gladly answer or respond to any specific comments or questions on
> the subject.
--
Adrian.Shaw@aber.ac.uk
Institute of Biological Sciences, University of Wales,
Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, Wales
http://pcjagg.dbs.aber.ac.uk/index.html
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<pre>Adrian, thanks for that excellent information on waste from olive oil
pressing. Are your references available on the internet anywhere?

Phil
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<pre>Phil,
As far as I know, these references are not available anywhere on the
internet. I'm afraid you'll have to get the hard copies! A good library
should be able to supply them.

Adrian

Phil Bramley wrote:
>
> Adrian, thanks for that excellent information on waste from olive oil
> pressing. Are your references available on the internet anywhere?
>
> Phil
--
Adrian.Shaw@aber.ac.uk
Institute of Biological Sciences, University of Wales,
Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, Wales
http://pcjagg.dbs.aber.ac.uk/index.html
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<pre>Further to my previous e-mail Adrian I was interested to know what sort of
olive growing exists in Wales and England?

Regards,

Phil
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<pre>Phil Bramley wrote:

> Further to my previous e-mail Adrian I was interested to know what sort of
> olive growing exists in Wales and England?

None. At least, not commercially. Someone who posted here a while ago has
managed to keep trees alive in southern England. I am hoping to try the same
here in mid Wales if I can find some trees. I figure that with a minimum
temperature here last winter of -5°C we have a chance! - although with a
maximum this summer of only 25°C I don't expect to get very much oil (or is
maximum temp. not so important?)

Regards,

Adrian
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Institute of Biological Sciences, University of Wales,
Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, Wales
http://pcjagg.dbs.aber.ac.uk/index.html
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<pre>The problem in S. England is getting enough heat and sunshine to ripen the
fruit. There may be better varieties than Pendolino [which I grow] for this
climate, I do not know for sure, but the 'hours of sunshine' is still the
problem. The fruit at present is still immature with, say, 20-30 days of
sunshine left if we are lucky.
Edward
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From: Adrian D. Shaw <Adrian.Shaw@aber.ac.uk>
To: OliveOil@onelist.com <OliveOil@onelist.com>
Cc: Phil Bramley <bramleyp@one.net.au>
Date: 23 August 1999 15:28
Subject: RE: [OliveOil] Olive Wastes (Recyclables)


>From: "Adrian D. Shaw" <Adrian.Shaw@aber.ac.uk>
>
>Phil Bramley wrote:
>
>> Further to my previous e-mail Adrian I was interested to know what sort
of
>> olive growing exists in Wales and England?
>
>None. At least, not commercially. Someone who posted here a while ago has
>managed to keep trees alive in southern England. I am hoping to try the
same
>here in mid Wales if I can find some trees. I figure that with a minimum
>temperature here last winter of -5°C we have a chance! - although with a
>maximum this summer of only 25°C I don't expect to get very much oil (or is
>maximum temp. not so important?)
>
>Regards,
>
>Adrian
>--
>Adrian.Shaw@aber.ac.uk
>Institute of Biological Sciences, University of Wales,
>Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, Wales
>http://pcjagg.dbs.aber.ac.uk/index.html
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<pre>Edward,

That's why we boat people left England a couple of hundred years ago - can't
stand the cold!

Phil
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<pre>Phil, you have an undeniably good point when on matters of Medit.
horticulture. There is, though, a certain amount of gallows-type humour in
trying to grow things which you had'nt oughter be trying in the first place.
Edward
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To: OliveOil@onelist.com <OliveOil@onelist.com>
Date: 24 August 1999 0:06
Subject: RE: [OliveOil] Olive Wastes (Recyclables)


>From: "Phil Bramley" <bramleyp@one.net.au>
>
>Edward,
>
>That's why we boat people left England a couple of hundred years ago -
can't
>stand the cold!
>
>Phil
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