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<pre>Dear Peter:

Thank you so much for that wonderful feedback on our web presence!

It is so difficult to evaluate one's own web presence quality, and if one's
true feelings are communicated correctly, that your opinion really means a
lot to me.

Thanks again and have a Happy New Year!

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<pre>Constantine

Have just perused Papa's pages and find them informative, educative,
interesting and full of that characteristic so pronounced in our industry,
romance. Where would we be without it?

Regards

Peter
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<pre>In this growing season I have noticed that my grafted Kalamata olives appear
to be less healthy than other varieties in the same block. The leaves have a
yellowish look compared to color of the Frantoio (Paragon) varieties close
by. The latter are much greener and appear to be more vigorous.

Does anyone have any information on the Kalamata variety and whether they
have a greater nutritional requirement than other varieties.

We are also noticing that this year's crop of olives generally is much less
than last year's. Although the olives are under sprinkler irrigation the
bi-annual nature of olives seems to be much in evidence.

Regards,

Phil
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<pre>Phil

My three year old Kalamatas dont appear to have the problem of yellowing
leaves although some of the Verdale/Mission do. Get a leaf analysis and pay
particular attention to the boron levels amonst other things.

Regards
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<pre>>From: "Phil Bramley" <bramleyp@one.net.au>
>
>In this growing season I have noticed that my grafted Kalamata olives
appear
>to be less healthy than other varieties in the same block. The leaves have
a
>yellowish look compared to color of the Frantoio (Paragon) varieties close
>by. The latter are much greener and appear to be more vigorous.
>
>Does anyone have any information on the Kalamata variety and whether they
>have a greater nutritional requirement than other varieties.
>
>We are also noticing that this year's crop of olives generally is much less
>than last year's. Although the olives are under sprinkler irrigation the
>bi-annual nature of olives seems to be much in evidence.
>
>Regards,
>
>Phil


Phil,

I had exactly the same problem last year with my grafted Kalamata (from
Olives Australia). They were 3 years old, some perfectly healthy, some
turning pale green, de-foliating and looking generally sick.

I suspected some sort of root problem and did find some curl grubs, but I
ended up pruning off anything that didn't look healthy, hit them with
Alliette (a systemic fungicide) and some foliar fertilisers and they seem to
be recovering this year.

I am having some tissue analysis done soon and hopefully this should shed
some light on the problem, but I have also heard of other growers having the
same problem (Graham White in Fordwich mentioned something similar).

There doesn't seem to be a straightforward answer, but keep an eye out for
insect attack on the weakened trees. I has some small dark brown / black
insects all over one or two of the weak trees, a quick spray with Rogor
fixed them up.

If you are interested, I wrote an article on the problem for the Hunter
Valley Olive Association newsletter, which I can forward to you, or to
anybody else interested, just e-mail me off the list to avoid boring
everybody else to death ... mike.wilson@hunterlink.net.au

Regards,

Mike Wilson.
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<pre>Thanks Peter,

What is interesting is that the olives (Frantoio, Verdale) immediately next
to the Kalamata show no signs of any deficiency and are powering along. Do
you think the Kalamata have different nutrient requirements?

Phil
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<pre>Thanks very much Mike. Alan Watt and myself compared notes yesterday and his
Kalamata olives are in exactly the same condition.

We sourced the trees from Olives Australia and our properties are only
minutes away from each other, so it is probably fair to assume that our
climate and soil is similar.

Peter Caird in Victoria has suggested a Boron deficiency and I think he is
right. Another grower not far from us spoke to us yesterday about problems
with his Kalamata's and he rectified it by adding Borax to his trees. They
are now powering along and appear healthy.

Regards,

Phil Bramley
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<pre>>From: "Phil Bramley" <bramleyp@one.net.au>
>
>Thanks very much Mike. Alan Watt and myself compared notes yesterday and
his
>Kalamata olives are in exactly the same condition.
>
>We sourced the trees from Olives Australia and our properties are only
>minutes away from each other, so it is probably fair to assume that our
>climate and soil is similar.
>
>Peter Caird in Victoria has suggested a Boron deficiency and I think he is
>right. Another grower not far from us spoke to us yesterday about problems
>with his Kalamata's and he rectified it by adding Borax to his trees. They
>are now powering along and appear healthy.
>
>Regards,
>
>Phil Bramley


Phil,

There was an article in one of the Olive Growers magazines (sorry, I forget
which one, probably Olives Australia's) about Boron deficiency on the North
Coast of NSW. The deficiency showed up as a yellowing, and tissue death,
starting from the tip of the leaf and working back toward the base. This is
completely different to my symptoms.

I will let you know the results of the tissue tests.

Mike.
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<pre>Dear Phil,
I too am experiencing a very low volume of fruit set this year. I am in
Baerami Creek in the Upper Hunter valley of NSW and I put it down to strong
winds at the crucial pollination time. We had huge inflorescence number in
the corregiola block (the main variety I have), last years was a heavy crop
and so there could be some biannual component to this phenomonem as well.
The growing conditions experienced during winter were favourable so I feel
irrigation was sufficient during this phase. On talking to other growers in
northern NSW it seems this is a general problem. Most growers experienced
very wet conditions last year with good fruit yeilds but a huge % of water
which made for a frustrating processing task for those with mills to
experiment on.

Regards Sharn
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> From: "Phil Bramley" <bramleyp@one.net.au>
>
> In this growing season I have noticed that my grafted Kalamata olives
appear
> to be less healthy than other varieties in the same block. The leaves have
a
> yellowish look compared to color of the Frantoio (Paragon) varieties close
> by. The latter are much greener and appear to be more vigorous.
>
> Does anyone have any information on the Kalamata variety and whether they
> have a greater nutritional requirement than other varieties.
>
> We are also noticing that this year's crop of olives generally is much
less
> than last year's. Although the olives are under sprinkler irrigation the
> bi-annual nature of olives seems to be much in evidence.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phil
>
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<pre>Sharn,

Thanks for that interesting piece of information. We also experienced heavy
winds during the inflorescence period and I suspect that this was
detrimental to fruit set. We irrigate all our olives so I would have thought
that the biannual fruiting effect would be mitigated somewhat.

We had hoped to run an Olive Harvest Festival in May but on closer
inspection of our trees we realise that our yield this year will be rather
small. We have yet to fire up our recently purchased Olimio 100 olive press
and so we felt that there would be a lot of trial and error before getting
the oil to acceptable quality. We also thought that there would be a fair
amount of olive oil wasted in the process - those olives for trial and error
we do not have!

Peter Caird of Victorian Olives (this is not a plug Peter) wrote an article
for Olives Australia about his early struggles with his machine and it makes
worthwhile reading for newcomers to olive oil pressing. He may be persuaded
to reprint his article for the discussion group?

Regards,

Phil Bramley
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