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Old March 24th, 2000, 12:49 PM
Constantine Alexander
 
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Re: Oklahoma

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<pre>I don't know about Oklahoma but they do in Texas and in New Mexico.

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Old March 24th, 2000, 07:01 PM
Antonio Gianno''
 
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Oklahoma

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<pre>Can someone tell me if it's possible to grow olive trees for the fruit in
Oklahoma (USA) ?
Thanks
Antonio
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Old March 24th, 2000, 08:31 PM
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<pre>I can't say for sure about Oklahoma but they do it in Texas. In fact, Texas
has its own Olive Oil Association.

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> Can someone tell me if it's possible to grow olive trees for the fruit
in Oklahoma (USA) ?
> Thanks
> Antonio
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Old March 25th, 2000, 04:02 AM
Marco Bernardini
 
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Re: Oklahoma

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<pre>Alle 01.01 25/03/2000 +0100, Antonio Gianno' ha mandato a Marco questo
messaggio:

>Can someone tell me if it's possible to grow olive trees for the fruit
in Oklahoma (USA) ?

Ciao Antonio!
Thinking to leave Italy for The Dust Bowl? Better to read Steinbeck's The
Grapes of Wrath, before :-)
If you have sun, water and warm winters you must try (this means it's
better to avoid the Panhandle).
Average winter temperature must be always higher than 0 C, with peaks no
lower than -5 C, or you can use your olive trees for your fireplace :-(
Trivia: okies build Oklahoma city just in 6 hours!

Buona fortuna!

Marco Bernardini
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Old March 26th, 2000, 03:14 AM
Constantine Alexander
 
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Re: Oklahoma

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<pre>Dear Stan:

There is a Texas Olive Oil Association that you should contact if you need
more info on this State's olive oil industry.

I will try to find their address for you if you are interested.

Best Regards,

Constantine Alexander
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>From: Stan Kailis <kailis@ca.com.au>
>From: Stan Kailis <kailis@ca.com.au>
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>My understanding is that there have been several attempts to start
>serious olive growing in Texas, but success has not been demonstrated.
>
>Am I correct? I would like to hear more.
>
>Prof Stan Kailis

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Old March 26th, 2000, 03:22 AM
Constantine Alexander
 
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<pre>Dear Stan:

Southern New Mexico (which is a Member State of the USA) has a lot of
primarily small olive oil farms. Unfortunately, the area is economically
depressed and the existing farms do not have the necessary capital to invest
in becoming competitive enough neither have the olive oil farming culture to
develope a high quality product for the high end specialty market.

Sincerely,
Constantine Alexander
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>
>Could someone provide me with more information on olive growing in New
>Mexico.
>
>I know olives grow will in Baha Mexico (South of San Diego USA)
>This is the main olive growing area of Mexico.
>
>Prof Stan Kailis
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Old March 26th, 2000, 02:07 PM
STUTZCO
 
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<pre>Stan

For Texas info, contact

Trigg Dealey
Texas Olive Oil Council

214 528-5608
Fax 214 528-0722
oliveoil@home.com
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Old March 26th, 2000, 04:44 PM
Stan Kailis
 
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<pre>Dear antonio and others.

The critical climatic parameter for the olive is temperature. If it is
below zero degrees Celcius there is increased likelihood of frost
damage. If it is above 35 C and especially greater than 40C pollination
is impaired. A number of chill hours are required for fruiting.
Flowerbud initiation commences in summer (at the molecular level). In
winter the flower buds are released from dormancy (bud break)after the
olive experiences a certain number of chill hours (Day length may also
play a roll). Different varieties require differing amounts of chill
hours. For example Sevillano requre 4-5 times the chill hours of
Kalamata and Koroneiki. At bud break, the bud from which flowers will
ultimately develop, and shoots recommence growth in Spring as the
temperature increases. You can see the buds differentiating into
infloresences with flower buds developing. The flowerbuds swell, petals
form and flowers open. Flowers are wind pollinated and to a lesser
extent insect pollinated. Once flowers are fertilised fruit development
occurs. As a rule of thumb most varieties will flower and fruit if the
Average monthly winter temperature (eg Southern Hemisphere = July
Northern Hemisphere = December) is between 10-12C. For example the olive
true grows well in tropical countries but does not flower because of a
lack of chill factor. Much of the reserach for chilling etc has eminated
from USA, Spain. Italy and Greece. Professor Andrea Fabbri from the
University of Parma is a specialist in this area and he is currently
experimenting with olive growing under ultra cold conditions. He is a
One List subscriber and I am sure he can add further comment.

Prof Stan Kailis
Perth WA

Regarding water the minimum annual requirement for a mature tree is the
equivalent of about 250 mm rainfall. mature olive trees receiving 850
-1000mm of rainfall mainly in winter do not require irrigation although
average yield may be reduced and alternative year fruiting patterns are
more pronounced.

For Arizona. Can you please send me the names of some major centers and
I will check out the climatic conditions and olive growing for you.

Prof Stan Kailis.
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Old March 26th, 2000, 04:46 PM
Stan Kailis
 
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Re: Oklahoma

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<pre>My understanding is that there have been several attempts to start
serious olive growing in Texas, but success has not been demonstrated.

Am I correct? I would like to hear more.

Prof Stan Kailis
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Old March 26th, 2000, 04:49 PM
Stan Kailis
 
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Re: Oklahoma

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<pre>Could someone provide me with more information on olive growing in New
Mexico.

I know olives grow will in Baha Mexico (South of San Diego USA)
This is the main olive growing area of Mexico.

Prof Stan Kailis
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