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<pre>The figure of 0.2% oil does seem a misprint. Did you really get
only 1.6 kg of oil from 800 kg of fruit? Don't worry about the colour of
the fruit. In this area some varieities are nearly 100% green when picked
and even the common frantoio variety has mostly green fruit at picking
time.

The time does not seem too early by our standards. We start picking
on 15th November which would be 15th May in Australia. If you have a much
warmer ripening period end of April would seem reasonable. At this stage of
the ripening period oil percentage is rising only slowly so even if you are
too early by two or three weeks it should only lower the oil percentage by
about 1% or 2% per week - not down to 0.2%!!!.

Late rain can certainly increase the fresh weight without
increasing the oil. The best time for the rain is about 6 weeks before
harvest after a summer drought. This will increase fresh weight and oil
percentage. We are looking for a good rain in late September early October
- in Oz March - April.

Cheers Brian Chatterton.
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<pre>Brian/Jamal and others

Sorry it's taken so long to respond. Have just finished crushing for the
day with much better results than those posted a few days ago. And, I
regret to say, it was NOT a misprint when I said we got a yield of 0.2% and
even this was not reclaimable. We did not do the whole 800kgs however, only
about 160kgs. Have set aside the balance to attack in another week or two.
The theory being that they may mature a tad more and convert water to oil.
Hope springs eternal. Shall keep you posted on same.

Regards
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<pre>Dear Constantine,
Thank you for your kind message, we do need all the prayers along with few olive
branches.

Best regards,
Chafic


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<pre>Dear all

In the Hunter Valley this years vintage has just begun. My dictionary has
several definitions for vintage, one of them being, 'the gathering of grapes for
winemaking'.

I would be interested to know if there a similar word for 'the gathering of
olives for oil making'.
I am not aware of a word in the English language, perhaps there is one or
perhaps there is in one or all of the Arabic, Italian, Greek or Spanish
languages.

Thank you

Liane



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<pre>In Hebrew there is a specific word for harveting olives for oil. ÷ñéî. In
English it is pronounced "moseek" with the "o" pronounced like in the word
"bottle".

At 06:59 AM 1/25/01 +1100, you wrote:
>Dear all
>
>In the Hunter Valley this years vintage has just begun. My dictionary has
>several definitions for vintage, one of them being, 'the gathering of
>grapes for winemaking'.
>
>I would be interested to know if there a similar word for 'the gathering
>of olives for oil making'.
>I am not aware of a word in the English language, perhaps there is one or
>perhaps there is in one or all of the Arabic, Italian, Greek or Spanish
>languages.
>
>Thank you
>
>Liane
>
>
>
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<pre>Rav Binyomin
Thank you for this reply. I do apologise for the omission of Hebrew from my
list of languages. There may be others I have missed to.

Liane

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Subject: Re: [OliveOil] Olive harvest


In Hebrew there is a specific word for harveting olives for oil. ÷ñéî. In
English it is pronounced "moseek" with the "o" pronounced like in the word
"bottle".

At 06:59 AM 1/25/01 +1100, you wrote:
>Dear all
>
>In the Hunter Valley this years vintage has just begun. My dictionary has
>several definitions for vintage, one of them being, 'the gathering of
>grapes for winemaking'.
>
>I would be interested to know if there a similar word for 'the gathering
>of olives for oil making'.
>I am not aware of a word in the English language, perhaps there is one or
>perhaps there is in one or all of the Arabic, Italian, Greek or Spanish
>languages.
>
>Thank you
>
>Liane
>
>
>
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<pre>Hi Liane

What's wrong with the English word "harvest"?

Vintage means something rather different, mainly because the year in which
the wine is produced is very pertinant to the quality, taste and flavour of
the wine as it matures over time.

The conditions of a particular year might well affect the quality etc of
olive oil, but you are stuck with it. Next year the oil will be worse.

Best regards

Judy
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Subject: [OliveOil] Olive harvest


> Dear all
>
> In the Hunter Valley this years vintage has just begun. My dictionary has
several definitions for vintage, one of them being, 'the gathering of grapes
for winemaking'.
>
> I would be interested to know if there a similar word for 'the gathering
of olives for oil making'.
> I am not aware of a word in the English language, perhaps there is one or
perhaps there is in one or all of the Arabic, Italian, Greek or Spanish
languages.
>
> Thank you
>
> Liane
>
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<pre>--- In OliveOil@egroups.com, "Liane Heinke" <heinke@o...> wrote:
> Dear all
>
>
> "I would be interested to know if there a similar word for 'the
gathering of olives for oil making'."
>
>
>
In Greek it is called "mazemma" which simply means, gathering! Just
that simple!

Georgos Kastrinakis
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<pre>It is a rest day from the olive harvest due to rain. We have picked about
80% and have an average crop which demonstrates the incredible toughness of
the olive.

The year started with about a month of frost. Fortunately it was only
about 4 degrees below rather than the 6 to 8 which causes real damage. Day
temperatures hovered around 2 or 3 and the growing tips were all scorched.
Young trees (two years) were totally scorched off and most died.

Spring was dry - very dry by our standards. In June we had a heat wave (
about 34 to 36 degrees) just at the time the flowers were setting. This
should not have been a problem except that the trees were under severe water
stress at the time.

By July we were worried by the drought but in August the rains came.
Average rainfall for August is 20 mm and we got 250 mm. Delight at the
breaking of the drought was somewhat dampened by the fact that we had a lot
of hail. A lot of the fruit was knocked on the ground. Almost every one left
on the trees is damaged to some degree.

Some of our neighbours lower down the hill have had olive fly but
fortunately our high altitude seems to have saved us from that problem.

The harvest weather has generally been good but last Saturday the south
wind (Sirocco) blew strongly. Sand and dust arrived from the Sahara.
Temperatures were more like November in Australia than Italy and many fruit
fell on the ground.

For all those new olive growers - welcome to an average farming year!

Cheer Brian Chatterton.
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