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<pre>Stan

The homepages of Olives Australia has a (not exhaustive) list at
http://www.oliveaustralia.aust.com/A...rocessors.html

I don't know whether Gianni Grigoletto was included. He is at Mildura,
Victoria. Oliomio 250.
Frank Fodera, Toscany Olives, Horsham, Victoria. Pieralisi 1.2 tonne/hour
Lee Dodds, Violet Town, Victoria. grovelee@mcmedia.com.au

If you can send me your private (or other) email address I will forward GC's
tasting notes.

Regards

I am also interested in getting information on

¥ Table olive processing plants - comercial
¥ Olive Mills - all sizes
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<pre>Thank you Phil for the information on mills etc.

My email is kailis@ca.com.au and mu fax is 08 9380 1108

I appreciate your help

Stan
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<pre>Has anyone tried removing the stones from olives, prior to processing them to
produce oil?.Any success??
D.S.


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<pre>Hello Dave Selway.

My name is Michael Bradley and I am working with a mill in California that
removes the stones prior to crushing. My company purchases most of the oil
while the mill which holds some very crucial patents collects the vegetable
water. It turns out that the vegetable water is useless, (actually less
than useless as a pollutant) as a food supplement if some waxes and toxins
contained in the stones and dissolved in the waste water are present.
However, as a source of antioxidants and polyphenols the water contains 100
times more of the "good stuff" than does the oil. I realize this sounds a
little outrageous but makes sense when one considers that polyphenols are
much more soluble in water than they are in oil. As for the organoleptic
properties of the oil I would have to say that oil produced in this manner
tends to be less bitter and seems to be "cleaner" and requires less settling
or filtering. The acidity levels are exceptionally low with one batch
consisting of 30 tons coming in at .09% ac. The majority of the oil
produced had ffa levels below .15%. The yield is slightly lower but this
may be a result of less wax from the stones. What is most interesting is
the possibility of having four valuable products to sell instead of one.
The stones are a very high source of calories, (I am told over 10 times that
of seasoned Oak). When separated prior to crushing and then dried in the sun
they resemble shelled peanuts The flesh, less the water, oil, and stones,
is light and sweet and should make a good food supplement for animals. The
environmental degradation caused by the indiscriminate dumping of waste
water in and around some mills in the Med is a real and chronic problem.

All in all, the process has lots of promise and potential. Imagine being
in the position of viewing the oil as a by product and water as the real
prize; of selling the flesh to feed farm animals and using the stones to run
your plant. It is certainly too early to make any solid predictions about
the spread and viability of this technique but it certainly is worth
investigating.


Michael B.
Oakland, California
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<pre>From my ethnographic work in northern Jordan, some people do pit the
olives prior to processing, but this is for only small amounts of oil
being processed for household use. No evidence that it was done for
larger "commercial" oil processing. Some people said that the crushed
stone releases a "bitter" taste to the oil. There are a few Roman period
references to removing the stones for the same reason.

A couple of other cultural practices: smoking the olives prior to
processing, and drying the olives prior to processing, or both. These
are traditional practices that are disappearing over time.



Peter Warnock


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<pre>No. I heard that this process is known as the Veronelli system. A company
in Italy has produced oil and markets it using this system. All reports to
date indicate that there is no improvement or detraction from the oil
quality or chemical make up. The flavour also is not affected.
Judy Ridgeway mentions this in her talks.
There may be other reports out there to the contrary. However it seems to
be a marketing ploy rather than one of improving the oil.

Cheers

Andrew Brown

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<pre>Hello again Dave.

Alfa Laval and perhaps other olive oil machinery manufacturers offer the
"pitting" or stone removal machines for about 24K US. Other than this
machine and the proper plumbing to sort water, oil, stones, and vegetable
material the process is the same. The method is referred to as "intregale".
There is a website by Dr. Roberta Crea that goes into greater detail about
this process. You can find it at:
http://www.supremooil.com/integrale.html.

Michael B.
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<pre>Dave and Michael,
You could always have a look at the "Olivia" processing unit which
slices the flesh from the pits before malaxing the lot and then
extracting the oil from the mush. The pits remain, I understand, in the
mix until it is all dumped.

Try the following link: http://www.australisolives.com/eqpt.php

Cheers
John Attwood
Tamworth
(Northern) NSW Au

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> Hello again Dave.
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> Alfa Laval and perhaps other olive oil machinery manufacturers offer the
> "pitting" or stone removal machines for about 24K US. Other than this
> machine and the proper plumbing to sort water, oil, stones, and vegetable
> material the process is the same. The method is referred to as
> "intregale".
> There is a website by Dr. Roberta Crea that goes into greater detail about
> this process. You can find it at:
> http://www.supremooil.com/integrale.html.
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