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<pre>Hi all,
Could anyone please advise which variety of olive trees grows better in Byron
Bay area?

Thanks
Zeynep
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<pre>My 250 Sevillano [planted 1998] have finally fruited. Supplied by Olives
Australia, I find that 50% of trees are some other variety, small, later
ripening fruit just to make things worse! I presume other people have had this
experience and if so, what did you do? The leaf is somewhat similar to the
Sevillano and not like any other varieties I have planted .

Don Grimes, Buckland Valley Olives, N.E. Victoria.
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<pre>> My 250 Sevillano [planted 1998] have finally fruited. Supplied by Olives
Australia, I find that 50% of trees are some other variety, small, later
ripening fruit just to make things worse! I presume other people have had
this experience and if so, what did you do? The leaf is somewhat similar to
the Sevillano and not like any other varieties I have planted .
>
> Don Grimes, Buckland Valley Olives, N.E. Victoria.

Dear Don,

The best person to ask would be Susan Sweeney at the Waite Institute in SA :
sweeney.susan@... as she is running the NOVA research into
varieties.

Good luck!

Mike Wilson
Hunter Valley, NSW.
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<pre>Don,
I have had exactly the same experience with grafted trees from Olives
Australia [supposedly Sevillanos], planted 1998.
Last year I queried the accuracy of the variety, on a posting with this
group, but no one indicated they had a similar experience.
Mike Wilson described some characteristics of the true Sevillano and as
there were some common aspects I put the differences down to the drought,
the first fruiting and my management of an irrigation regime. It is a
bitter/sweet comfort to find someone else has found a similar situation.
My fruit is about the size of Frantoio and slightly purple in colour when
ripe, matures later than others who have [true] Sevillanos, with the tree
foliage rather dense and dark in colour.
I have no idea what the variety is but would like to know. I am intending
to press the small amount of fruit separately to see what the yield and oil
taste is like.
If anyone has further information about this situation I would value your
input.

Alan Watt
Tanja Olives

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Subject: [OliveOil] Cultivar question

My 250 Sevillano [planted 1998] have finally fruited. Supplied by Olives
Australia, I find that 50% of trees are some other variety, small, later
ripening fruit just to make things worse! I presume other people have had
this experience and if so, what did you do? The leaf is somewhat similar to
the Sevillano and not like any other varieties I have planted .

Don Grimes, Buckland Valley Olives, N.E. Victoria.





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<pre>Alan, Did you attempt to contact Olives Australia?. Clearly we have been sold a
faulty product. Half my trees have large fruit similar to Hardy Mammoth but the
remainder are about the size of Nevadillo but with a leaf similar to Sevillano.
My email address is dgrimes@... if anyone else has this problem. No need
to bother the group!
Don Grimes
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From: Alan Watt
To: OliveOil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 8:24 AM
Subject: RE: [OliveOil] Cultivar question


Don,
I have had exactly the same experience with grafted trees from Olives
Australia [supposedly Sevillanos], planted 1998.
Last year I queried the accuracy of the variety, on a posting with this
group, but no one indicated they had a similar experience.
Mike Wilson described some characteristics of the true Sevillano and as
there were some common aspects I put the differences down to the drought,
the first fruiting and my management of an irrigation regime. It is a
bitter/sweet comfort to find someone else has found a similar situation.


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<pre>Brian,

your answer to Jason's message reveals a good expertise concerning olive
trees of central Italy.

I have a little oliveto since a few months. It is located on the hills
(450m./s.l.) midway between Todi and Perugia and I would like to extend the
grove planting more olive trees till an overall extent of four hectares. The
olives should be for the table and for E.V. olive oil.

May I have a suggestion about the mixture of varieties, the row spacing, the
pruning , the farming method, the harvesting and any other consideration
that may be usefull?

Thank you.

Marcello Martinangeli



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<pre>Marcello,

by your description i presume you're located in the Colli Martani
sub-zone of the PDO. Being in Umbria you should base your grove on
"Frantoio" and "Moraiolo" in order to have a nice high quality oil full
of character, and if you want to have some table olives i recommend
"Ascolana tenera".
You can also use as secondary cultivars for oil production "Orbetana"
and "Nostrale di Rigali", booth very resistant to low temperatures and
producing high quality oils (the "Nostrale" harvest should be
anticipated because it's very sensitive to olive fly). But, and here is
the downside, with a olive grove with these varieties you should pay a
close attention to olive-knot (rogna) a peacock-spot (occhio di
pavone).

As for planting 5x5 or 6x6 open-vase leaving a 1.2m trunk to allow
mechanical harvest.

You can find out more about Umbrian cultivars by going to the ARUSIA
(Agenzia Regionale Umbra per lo Svilupo e l'Innovazione in Agricoltura
- www.arusia.umbria.it - via Mario Angeloni 63 PG). They have a few
books that might interest you (i think their free):

* VarietÃ* di Olivo in Umbria

* Caratteristiche dei frutti e dell'olio di germoplasma olivicolo in
Umbria

* Tecniche per lo sviluppo dell'olivicoltura in Umbria

* Indicazioni per il miglioramento qualitativo e la valorizzazione
della produzione olivicola in Umbria

Saluti,

João Correia


On 3 Jul, 2005, at 11:48, Le Dolci Tradizioni wrote:

> Brian,
>
> your answer to Jason's message reveals a good expertise concerning
> olive
> trees of central Italy.
>
> I have a little oliveto since a few months. It is located on the hills
> (450m./s.l.) midway between Todi and Perugia and I would like to
> extend the
> grove planting more olive trees till an overall extent of four
> hectares. The
> olives should be for the table and for E.V. olive oil.
>
> May I have a suggestion about the mixture of varieties, the row
> spacing, the
> pruning , the farming method, the harvesting and any other
> consideration
> that may be usefull?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Marcello Martinangeli
>
>
>
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<pre>Brian and Joao,

I'd like to thank you for your replies to my query.

Just what I needed and very much appreciated!

I am not far away at San Vito in Monte (Podere Casale) in the Comune of San
Venanzo.

Saluti.

Marcello Martinangeli



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