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Old December 4th, 2000, 06:19 PM
M Haykal
 
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Lampante olive oil (lamp oil)

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<pre>To all,

We have a good quantity (up to 10000 MT) of Syrian lampante olive oil for
export, any interest or you may know/advise about any other interested
parties?

Thanks

Mohamed Haykal

Tel: +963 11 224 5200
Fax +963 11 222 3465
e-mail: haykal@haykal.com
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Old December 5th, 2000, 05:29 PM
Stan Kailis
 
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Re: Lampante olive oil (lamp oil)

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<pre>I would be interested to know
¥ what proportion of Syrian olive oil is Lampante Grade?
¥ Is olive fly a problem in Syria?
¥ are there refineries in Syria that can convert Lampante Olive Oil to
Refined olive oil?
¥ What is the price?

In Australia every one is keen to produce high quality oil. Lampante
Olive oil has a high free acid content. This can be due to poor quality
olives being crushed for oil. Olive quality deteriorates through pests
such as olive fly and by storing harvested olives under poor conditions
or for periods greater than a few days after harvest.

Stan Kailis
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Old December 7th, 2000, 03:10 AM
Zeno
 
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RE: Lampante olive oil (lamp oil)

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<pre>Stan:

In Syria we rarely have any Lampante olive oil, we schedule the farmers to
bring in the olives on certain dates to insure the freshness of the olive
when pressed, this way we end up with more E. V. oil.

We do not have Olive oil refineries, when we extract the oil we leave the
olive meal (Pomace/residue) out in an open area to be collected later by a
company the extracts the balance of oil left in it (about 2.5% oil), it is
extracted using a petroleum by product, thus it is not edible. We use this
oil in manufacturing olive oil soap.

We had a record crop, about 900,000 ton of olives, we'll end up with about
70,000 ton of Virgin and E. V. olive oil for export.

The time is very opportune for any investor to establish joint venture with
a local Syrian company to produce and export Olive oil.

Large companies do not exist at this time, and Syria is number 6 in
production, world wide.

Hassan Zeno



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From: Stan Kailis [mailto:kailis@ca.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 12:29 AM
To: OliveOil@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [OliveOil] Lampante olive oil (lamp oil)


I would be interested to know
Ç what proportion of Syrian olive oil is Lampante Grade?
Ç Is olive fly a problem in Syria?
Ç are there refineries in Syria that can convert Lampante Olive Oil to
Refined olive oil?
Ç What is the price?

In Australia every one is keen to produce high quality oil. Lampante
Olive oil has a high free acid content. This can be due to poor quality
olives being crushed for oil. Olive quality deteriorates through pests
such as olive fly and by storing harvested olives under poor conditions
or for periods greater than a few days after harvest.

Stan Kailis



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Old December 10th, 2000, 06:21 PM
Stan Kailis
 
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Re: Lampante olive oil (lamp oil)

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<pre>Hassan

Your information on olive oil in Syria was very interesting. Thank you

Stan Kailis
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Old December 16th, 2000, 05:32 AM
Phil Bramley
 
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RE: Lampante olive oil (lamp oil)

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<pre>Ahmad,

In case you are not aware, Lampante olive oil is the lowest quality of olive
oil for sale. It is usually extracted using solvents and is only good for
use in lamps and other low quality applications.

Regards,

Phil

ps I have many contacts in the American olive oil market.

A marketing strategy could be to:

1. setup our website "Outremer Olive Oil" - a possible name for one of our
olive oil products, perhaps our flagship (our best olive oil), "Outremer
Olive Oil". Outremer is Frankish (during the Crusade period) for the Middle
Sea and our French and German markets will identify with that. The website
could feature Krak des Chevaliers and our marketing and publicity could say
something like
........under the ramparts of the mighty Krak des Chevaliers the olive
groves in Wadi Nusaria preceded the invasion of the Crusaders. Olives have
existed here long before the Kurds first fortified the hill top which now
hosts the most famous castle in the world. Pictures of the Krak des
Chevaliers, olive groves nearby, etc etc etc. The most famous leader against
the Crusaders was a Kurd - Salah ad Din. We also weave a little story around
him too.

The idea would be to make our oil world famous and to appeal to the boutique
market. So instead of selling for 2.50 per (was that for 500ml or
750ml)bottle we could sell it for 10.50 per bottle.

Other marketing strategies may include travel to the olive groves of Syria,
and of course to take in the mighty Krak des Chevaliers at the same time.
Driving on to Palymra from Homs our tourists can stay on your farm in
Bedouin tents before proceeding on to Zenobia and the mighty Palymerenes.

Anyway, you know all of this don't you?

Regards,

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: M Haykal [mailto:haykal@haykal.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2000 10:19 AM
To: OliveOil@egroups.com
Subject: [OliveOil] Lampante olive oil (lamp oil)


To all,

We have a good quantity (up to 10000 MT) of Syrian lampante olive oil for
export, any interest or you may know/advise about any other interested
parties?

Thanks

Mohamed Haykal

Tel: +963 11 224 5200
Fax +963 11 222 3465
e-mail: haykal@haykal.com



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Old December 16th, 2000, 05:27 PM
Phil Bramley
 
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RE: Lampante olive oil (lamp oil)

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<pre>Oops!

Please disregard my email to Ahmad. This was meant to be a personal email.

Regards,

Phil

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Old December 20th, 2000, 03:54 PM
Rav Binyomin Menachem Adilman
 
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RE: Lampante olive oil (lamp oil)

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<pre>Folks, If I am correct have always been under the impression that it is
Pomace oil which is extracted by solvents. Lampante is simply a designation
for oil which is above the 3.3% acidity standard. It may then be heated in
some cases to produce greater clariity. In Israel, we purchase Spanish
Virgin Lampante Oil and bottle is for lighting candles (sacramental usage).

Yours,
Binyomin Adilman

At 09:32 PM 12/16/00 +1100, you wrote:
>Ahmad,
>
>In case you are not aware, Lampante olive oil is the lowest quality of olive
>oil for sale. It is usually extracted using solvents and is only good for
>use in lamps and other low quality applications.
>
>Regards,
>
>Phil
>
>ps I have many contacts in the American olive oil market.
>
>A marketing strategy could be to:
>
>1. setup our website "Outremer Olive Oil" - a possible name for one of our
>olive oil products, perhaps our flagship (our best olive oil), "Outremer
>Olive Oil". Outremer is Frankish (during the Crusade period) for the Middle
>Sea and our French and German markets will identify with that. The website
>could feature Krak des Chevaliers and our marketing and publicity could say
>something like
>........under the ramparts of the mighty Krak des Chevaliers the olive
>groves in Wadi Nusaria preceded the invasion of the Crusaders. Olives have
>existed here long before the Kurds first fortified the hill top which now
>hosts the most famous castle in the world. Pictures of the Krak des
>Chevaliers, olive groves nearby, etc etc etc. The most famous leader against
>the Crusaders was a Kurd - Salah ad Din. We also weave a little story around
>him too.
>
>The idea would be to make our oil world famous and to appeal to the boutique
>market. So instead of selling for 2.50 per (was that for 500ml or
>750ml)bottle we could sell it for 10.50 per bottle.
>
>Other marketing strategies may include travel to the olive groves of Syria,
>and of course to take in the mighty Krak des Chevaliers at the same time.
>Driving on to Palymra from Homs our tourists can stay on your farm in
>Bedouin tents before proceeding on to Zenobia and the mighty Palymerenes.
>
>Anyway, you know all of this don't you?
>
>Regards,
>
>Phil
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: M Haykal [mailto:haykal@haykal.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2000 10:19 AM
>To: OliveOil@egroups.com
>Subject: [OliveOil] Lampante olive oil (lamp oil)
>
>
>To all,
>
>We have a good quantity (up to 10000 MT) of Syrian lampante olive oil for
>export, any interest or you may know/advise about any other interested
>parties?
>
>Thanks
>
>Mohamed Haykal
>
>Tel: +963 11 224 5200
>Fax +963 11 222 3465
>e-mail: haykal@haykal.com
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
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Old December 27th, 2000, 10:19 AM
Stan Kailis
 
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<pre>Lampante Olive Oil is virgin olive oil with a a free acid value of
greater than 3.3%. It also has a number of other defects. It is not
solvent extracted oil which is called olive pomace oil. All the oils
have specific quality paramaters that are used to define each grade.

Lampante Olive Oil is refined and then blended with virgin olive oils to
give 100% pure olive oil, light olive oil and now extra light olive oil.

Stan Kailis
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