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<pre>Jamal-
I too can eat 40 freshly home cured california ascolano olives at a time with
a glass of Rosé in the summer whilst playing boule. Might I suggest that
everyone join the California Olive Oil Council(cooc.com-check us out), which
has 300 members and is already a trade organization for the olive oil industry
in CA?
Ken Stutz
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<pre>To: Norm in Greece
You win.
Could those tiny Greek olives be the wonderful KORONEKI-one of the small
olive-excellent oil and yield types? What is an American(I only assume) doing
on a Greek farm?
Ken Stutz
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<pre>On Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:30:39 EST, you wrote:

>From: STUTZCO@aol.com
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>Jamal-
>I too can eat 40 freshly home cured california ascolano olives at a time with
>a glass of Rosé in the summer whilst playing boule. Might I suggest that
>everyone join the California Olive Oil Council(cooc.com-check us out), which
>has 300 members and is already a trade organization for the olive oil industry
>in CA?
>Ken Stutz
Hate to brag Ken, but we have about 200 trees bearing kalamatas in our orchard.
I forget what variety the other 500 or so are. They're small, and FULL of oil.
We just press oil from them. Those are the bearing trees. We put another 150
kalamatas in last spring and in seven years or so we might be seeing some
profit from them, if the shepherds keep their flocks away from the young trees
anyway. Oh well, if they don't I'll have fresh lamb for life.

Some of the kalamatas we keep for curing, but when the kalamatas are pressed we
make sure we're there so that the oil, usually about 70 gallons a year, that we
plan on keeping for ourselves and friends, isn't "polluted" with inferior
fruit. The golden color, and flavor of kalamata oil is fantastic. That's all
we use at home. I'm sipping ouzo, sampling fresh feta, covered with a little
oil and black pepper, and pigging out on our home cured kalamatas while I'm
typing this, one handed of course. The vinegar and olive oil added after
curing does AMAZING things to the keyboard if you're not careful.

On a side note, most of the olives harvested from our area of Greece are
exported to Italy and re-exported from there as "Italian" olive product. Sorry
if I'm offending any Italian producers on the list, but the fact is that the
Greeks are really far behind other European olive producing countries in
marketing and export. Doesn't bother me a bit, as long as we meet expenses and
have a little wine money left over.

Norm Corley
Athens, Greece
http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/7003 - Personal Page
http://radivision.hypermart.net - Business Page

"I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian!"
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<pre>>From: STUTZCO@aol.com
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>To: Norm in Greece
>You win.
>Could those tiny Greek olives be the wonderful KORONEKI-one of the small
>olive-excellent oil and yield types?
They could be koronekis Ken. I'll have to ask the wife or mother-in-law. I'm
just the manual labor around the place. The yield on them is excellent
considering their size.

>What is an American(I only assume) doing on a Greek farm?
>Ken Stutz
You assume right Ken. I bounced around the world with the U.S. Air Force for
26 years, 24 of them outside the U.S. Married a Greek girl about 20 years ago
and you know the old saying, "Home is where the wife cooks.". I retired from
the Air Force in Greece in 1990. We live in Argyroupolis (Silver City), one
of the southern Athens suburbs. The farm is near Agrinio in Western Greece.
It's been in the family for a BUNCH of years. One of these years I'll convince
the wife to move there permanently instead of running back and forth to baby
the trees. Our next major project is to install a better irrigation system.
Right now all the trees are watered by hand using 5 inch diameter hoses. Takes
a crew of three of us about a week to do the job each time we irrigate.
Wouldn't take that long but I wouldn't want to revert to barbarism by missing
my daily siesta. It is a relaxing job though. Take a good book, a lawn chair
and enjoy nature. It does help that the neighbors are always coming around
with their latest wine or raki for sampling.

Norm

Norm Corley
Athens, Greece
http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/7003 - Personal Page
http://radivision.hypermart.net - Business Page

"I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian!"
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<pre>Iam a gardener in Sussex [Zone 8] growing Mdit plants and experimenting with
growing olives. At present we have a 15-17 year tree brought in from N. Italy
last year. It is against a south wall and trunk and branches are wrapped in
fleece. Will we get blossom, are olives self-fertile?
Edward Faridany
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<pre>It depends on the cv. Only a few are self-fertile, and even them benefit from
cross pollination. Do you know the name? In any case, you better
buy another.
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<pre>No I do not know the name - the fruit is very small[maybe 11/2cms. to 2
cms.] Will any two types of olive do for cross-pollination or do I need
specific second variety [once I can identify the tree. I will contact the
nursery Chimini in Maderno, L.Garda and get the name]Can you suggest an
annotated bibliography of sources on olive types and tree cultivation? I
assume that the tree will flower even if not pollinated?
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From: Andrea Fabbri <fabbri@ipruniv.cce.unipr.it>
To: OliveOil@onelist.com <OliveOil@onelist.com>
Date: 31 March 1999 15:45
Subject: [OliveOil] Re: (no subject)


>From: Andrea Fabbri <fabbri@ipruniv.cce.unipr.it>
>
>It depends on the cv. Only a few are self-fertile, and even them benefit
from cross pollination. Do you know the name? In any case, you better
>buy another.
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<pre>I'm in the search for books on olive trees myself and have so far found
these resources. Since I haven't bought, I can't be sure of their value
to you in re: the pollination info. The most comprehensive seems to be:

"Olive Production Manual"
ISBN: 1879906155
--pub. price=U$32.00. It can be found on any of the major on-line book
sellers (Amazon.com has a review). Or, you may want to order directly
from UC Davis at:
http://commserv.ucdavis.edu/ucce/pro.../default.shtml

Other places to check:
http://www.oliveoilsource.com/
(has a list of books on olives & oil.)
http://www.acses.com
(this is a general book search site that can give you the best deal on
the internet worldwide. highly recommended when wanting to find the
lowest prices on books.)

You might also try a public library. Here in California, basic books on
olives are easily found in libraries, due to the climate I suppose. Not
sure if this will be the case in your part of the world.
Hope this helps. A good (local) nursery should be able to help you,
too, as Andrea advises.

>I don't know of any relevant books on olive in english. The nursery is
the best source of information.

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